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Post by Zac Efron on Jan 30, 2014 12:47:34 GMT
Hi guys! Zac is here and ready to speak to you all! 
First of all, congratulations to all three of you for making the Final 3. This was a crazy game and you guys all deserve to be here, no matter what anyone says. You should be proud of yourselves! I certainly am.
Neil. You promised me big things for your Final Tribal Council, and you got me excited cause you insisted that you would blow us all away, but in your opening statement you didn't address anything I was wanting to hear from you.
From what I gather your strategy was to throw challenges and not be a threat, which I think is a great strategy to make Final 3, but not a great strategy to get votes from the jury. Cause you are relying on others for taking you to this spot due to not being a threat, rather than making moves to get here yourself.
So I'll give you another chance. ^_^
The first four votes of the merge, Colin, Peter, Donald and Angelina were voted off in huge blindsides. In these tribal councils, you voted for Nicki, Rihanna, Jeremy and me. Can you please explain to the jury why you never had a part in voting these people out, and seemingly weren't involved in the game? Also please explain why you cast those votes, and your strategy behind them, and why your plans never worked. And why you should be rewarded with the win based on that.
Also, please tell me where your allegiance was with me in this game. Because you told me at one point you wanted to go to the end with me, but I have a hard time buying that. You've claimed you were always tight with Nicki and Rihanna, so why did you vote for them the first chance you got? Nicki claims in her speech that she never intended on going to the end with you, so to me it seems you simply fell into an alliance with her to make the Final 3 together, rather than out of loyalty.
Anyway great game, you deserve to be in Final 3, I'm just hoping that you can outline your strategy that we haven't seen to this point. Good luck! <3
Nicki. I have a lot of respect for you, I know you have none for me. It doesn't really bother me, cause I don't think we'll ever be friends. ^_^ But I think you're a great player and you totally deserve to be in the Final 3.
We played three games together the last couple of months. You beat me at all of them. Congrats. I mean it. I targeted you at the merge for being a threat, and it backfired when Colin was blindsided. I should reward you for that with my jury vote, no?
I wanted to ask you if you truly intended on going to Final 4 with me, Glori and Angelina, the alliance which we put together the round we blindsided Peter, but you answered that already, as has Angelina, and like I suspected, you had no intentions of being loyal to me at all. So my question is, how am I the one who is disloyal to you guys?
Lastly, you have said on multiple occasions that "relying on immunities without numbers is not deserving to win the game", in reference to AnnaSophia. Based on that, can you explain to us all why you're most likely voting for Brianna to win The Island, who won like five immunities to make the F2, most of them which she needed to survive? Unless you can explain what the difference is between her immunity wins and Anna's, I kind of think you're a hypocrite.
Cause based on what I'm reading here: www.ndimforums.com/theislandallfans/thread.asp?threadid=247&pp=15#new It doesn't seem like you're the biggest fan of Dawson, you mention nothing about Brianna being undeserving of winning the game due to her challenge wins, and I have a hard time to believe you won't vote for Brianna. In fact you said "I have nothing but respect for the way in which you played out this merge game." So you *do* respect winning immunity challenges to survive? Which one is it?
Congrats again on a great game, and good luck!
Anna. You have played one of the best UTR games I've ever seen. You knew you were at the bottom of the girls alliance, and rather than waiting to be eliminated, you did something about it when you had the chance. At the point when you approached me to switch up the game at Final 10, I actually didn't have any intentions of working with you. The other girls told me you'd be gone after the guys, and I more or less agreed with it.
You used your Hidden Immunity Idol to force me into an alliance with you, by giving it to me, and I thought that play was brilliant! ^_^ I'd already suggested to the girls we should save Jeremy, cause I liked him a lot, but with nobody else on my side, I didn't see how it was possible, but you and I made it happen. Even though I *wanted* to save Jeremy so badly, it was such a tough decision cause I *knew* I would lose the trust of all the other girls and would almost definitely worsen my position. But how could I possibly betray someone who gave me their Hidden Immunity Idol? I couldn't!
For sure you were the ringleader of the alliance with me and Jeremy, you were the one who brought us together, using the power of the HII brilliantly to get me under your wing and loyal to you, when I otherwise wasn't, Jeremy couldn't possibly betray you after we saved him, so in one tribal council you had formed a power alliance which was a purple rock away from making the Final 3! 
The Angelina blindside was completely your idea too, you sensed the votes were going to be on you and asked for the idol back, which I did without question, and urged us to put our votes on Angelina for being the biggest threat in the game with the most connections. It was a brilliant move!
The first four votes at the merge were huge blindsides, you were the only person in the whole game who voted all those people out. Everyone else in the game was shocked in at least one of those votes, but not you, which shows you were in the loop and part of the strategy going on.
Some people like Nicki are implying that relying on challenge wins is undeserving for victory, but I disagree. I think winning two challenges back to back, when you needed them most, to make Final 3, puts the finishing touches to the great game you played. To me you showed challenge strength, a great strategic mind and a solid social game, and to me that is deserving of a win!
My only question is, why did you trust me so much after you saw I betrayed the boys in the previous round? I find it fascinating that you had the guts to hand over your Hidden Immunity Idol to me when we'd barely gotten to know each other and you saw what I did to Peter. It was a risky move, and it paid off for sure, cause look where you are now! ^_^
You were one of my best friends and favourite allies in this game, it was a pleasure to play with you. Good luck! <3
This has been the craziest game I've ever played with all those blindsides and I had a lot of fun, hope you all feel the same way, cause even if we didn't get along at times, I loved playing with you all.
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Post by Neil Patrick Harris on Jan 31, 2014 4:41:02 GMT
Thanks Zac. I will answer you more in depth tomorrow. The way you have worded this question makes me believe that you really are not 100% decided.
I do want to address one thing really quick.
You said you were not blown away by my opening statement and that I didn't really explain my game in the way you were hoping for. I kind of addressed this in my opening statement. I mean, in Survivor, they don't spell out every single move of their game in the opening. It's just supposed to be a tease of what's to come. I wanted you guys to feel free to grill me as you felt appropriate, and I would address that, rather than rambling on and on about stuff you might not even care to read. So I wasn't trying to win the game in the opening. I wanted to set the tone and let you guys know I would answer anything honestly and that I looked forward to laying my game out there.
So I am excited to jump in more tomorrow!
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Post by Neil Patrick Harris on Jan 31, 2014 22:28:24 GMT
OK let's dig in to this...
As far as the votes go, I wouldn't say they were all huge blindsides to me except Colin. That one I was super surprised by because I thought you, me, Colin, Donald, Peter were a pretty solid group - so yeah you really caught me off guard on that one. You've actually got my votes wrong. By the way I want to point out here that I made my vote look different every time so nobody would be quite sure what mine was. I am not sure if that ever was the case, but I made every vote in a different font and style so people couldn't say "oooo that was Neil's vote". My votes for those four votes were: Nicki, Jeremy, Jeremy, you. I never voted Rihanna until the final four tiebreaker. I don't feel like not voting with everyone means I am out of touch with the game - I think that is a bit harsh. I want to point out that some jurors are pretty adamant in saying that "Neil was just told how to vote and went that way" and you are saying "Neil didn't vote with the majority so he was out of touch with the game". SO which is it?
I'll tell you.
Honestly, it was me doing whatever the f I wanted and not going back on my word. I already established you got me on the Colin front. I refused to vote for Peter and Donald because they were my allies and I was not going to turn my back on them just because that was the popular move. Neither one of those votes were blindsides. After you flipped on us for the Colin vote - it was pretty obvious what was going to happen. If you recall I fought with you about these votes. When you flipped, and I knew Peter and Donald were pretty done for, I had started talking to Angelina and we had begun bonding. I knew I needed some more allies since my originals were being picked off, so I struck a friendship up with her and we agreed to start working together. The round she left I knew it was a possibility but I wasn't sure you had gotten the votes to pull it off. Again, not a huge blindside as much as it was "an unfortunate shift". Again I wasn't going to vote Angelina - I liked her and made a promise to her that I wouldn't, and I kept my promise. If being loyal to allies and trying to play an honest game makes me disconnected from the game, then I'll take it. And that honestly is one of my big things I am proud of in this game. If I made a deal I kept it. You were one of those few exceptions. I feel like you betrayed my trust and the alliance and struck out on your own with Jeremy and Anna, so all bets were off. Then when we tried to reconcile, I just didn't trust you because you were lying to everyone about everything so you were the one person I didn't feel bad about lying to. I'm sorry if that is mean, but it's how I felt about you. So it's not that my plans didn't work - it's that I chose to stick with my allies - big difference in my opinion.
As far as loyalty to you - I was 100% down with you until the Colin vote. You were my F2. All the way. I chatted with you more, we talked more, we had good talks. Peter and Donald were great but they tended to be on AIM a lot but didn't respond, and when they did it was always when I was going to bed so they were quick chats. You and I bonded, or so I thought. When you pulled off the Colin upset it really pissed me off, and you got super arrogant about it and it immediately soured me on you. So from that point forward I really wanted to get you out. So yeah, loyal and then when you broke our loyalty, I did.
I shouldn't have said I was always tight with Nicki and Rihanna. I was all for voting out Nicki over one of my fellow dude alliance members which is why I did that early on, and probably why she voted against me in the Final 4 to be honest. Again, it comes down to loyalty. Nicki, Rihanna and I started talking around the same time Angelina and I started talking - at the merge. I believe Ri reached out to me first and brought Nicki in because they had been close. We talked a lot, but never made a firm F3 deal until, I believe Donald's boot. Now I can't speak for what Nicki or Rihanna's plans were for me, but Rihanna just publicly stated in her question that she would have voted with me - I didn't ask her to because I thought she was so tight with Nicki. If Nicki had no intention of going to the end with me, then that's her game - but I didn't just fall into an alliance with those girls. We stuck by each other and formulated the alliance and I love them both. That's an alliance. If it were convenient, I would not care, but I do. I love that Nicki is here, and I told Rihanna I was voting with her at the F4 - because I wanted to be honest with her. And I didn't vote for them first chance I got. I voted Nicki because I was loyal to the guys I had committed to first, and I hadn't made any deals with Nicki yet. I didn't vote for Rihanna until the F4 when I HAD to vote for either Rihanna or Nicki. In that case I voted Rihanna because I honestly believed that she was the bigger threat and that if I had a chance of winning, Ri could not be sitting there with me. And because I love both those girls I went with the better game move. And I am pretty sure Ri respects me for it and isn't mad. To me, that is good game management.
So I hope this didn't come off as too defensive or mean. I know I have given you some shit, but I want you to honestly see that my strategy this game was loyalty. I know you don't really love my gameplay and seeing that Anna is the person you clicked with most in the game I know I am a huge longshot for your vote, but you also seem to think I did nothing and don't really deserve to be here - so I hope if nothing else you can see what I did and how I maneuvered here and can at least give me some credit.
Thanks Zac.
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Post by Zac Efron on Feb 1, 2014 1:19:55 GMT
Thanks for your response, Neil!  But I am just really confused by a a couple of things which I want to bring up with you. 1. I had nothing to do with the Colin blindside. I had no idea he was getting a single vote that tribal council. And I made it rather obvious to everyone, including you, that I was pissed cause I was lied to and left out of that plan. This is part of the PM I sent to you after that TC. So I am just really confused that you seem to think I was the one behind Colin leaving, cause I thought it was clear to everyone I was left out of the plan on that vote. And we even discussed on AIM about how pissed we were we weren't told by the other boys. Don't you remember this? O.o 2. The tribal council where Peter was blindsided, there were 7 votes for Peter, 5 for Rihanna. There were no votes for Jeremy, who you said just now who you voted for. I was expecting it to be a 8-4 vote instead it was 7-5, so I assumed you voted for Rihanna by mistake or something, cause we agreed with each other to vote Peter and you knew exactly what was going on that round. So...did you vote after the deadline or something and have Rihanna on your bootlist? Cause something isn't adding up. :/ I promise this is the last I'll be asking you, I know you don't expect my vote tonight, so I appreciate your efforts, honestly. Like I said I'm giving everyone a fair chance and these questions are aimed at helping you explain your game. And most importantly I hate that you seem to think that I believe you don't deserve to be in Final 3.  You TOTALLY deserve to be there. <3 Nobody gets to Final 3 without deserving it, you beat us all and should be proud of yourself no matter what happens this FTC! |
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Post by Nicki Minaj on Feb 1, 2014 5:29:25 GMT
~*Nicki Minaj’s Response To Zac's Comments/Questions*~ 
Hey Zac!!
Firstly, I don't hate you. I am not a bitter bitch! 
I wanted to ask you if you truly intended on going to Final 4 with me, Glori and Angelina, the alliance which we put together the round we blindsided Peter, but you answered that already, as has Angelina, and like I suspected, you had no intentions of being loyal to me at all. So my question is, how am I the one who is disloyal to you guys?
Ugh you bugged me so much in these last three games! lol! I think in the Island I was so annoyed with being pegged as this social player on the girls' tribe and wanted you out so bad in both that and this that I just had to peg you as "Evil" "Disloyal" "Annoying" etc. I was happy when we got to work with each other a bit in this, but knew it was only for the short-term. So yes the alliance was completely fake, and I am glad you realize that too. It was nothing personal, but was just not something I could trust in long term because of our past.
You are disloyal to us because you voted us out first. But it was a good move to try and take Angelina out when you did, because we would have easily went after you the first chance that we go..for sure!
Lastly, you have said on multiple occasions that "relying on immunities without numbers is not deserving to win the game", in reference to AnnaSophia. Based on that, can you explain to us all why you're most likely voting for Brianna to win The Island, who won like five immunities to make the F2, most of them which she needed to survive? Unless you can explain what the difference is between her immunity wins and Anna's, I kind of think you're a hypocrite.
In reference to Brianna VS Anna. These are two different games and you cannot compare or bring them into one another. In my opinion, to suit your fact. Brianna played an awesome social game as well as an amazing game in the challenges. I also dislike the way Dawson attacked me throughout that jury session. I think that alone was annoying, and I wouldn't have voted for her after the way she acted at all compared to Brianna. In terms of Anna, she didn't do much social game in addition to her challenge win. In my opinion, Neil and Anna are lucky to be here. I would have been in this final three without luck on my side. I had numbers that neither of them had in Angelina, and Rihanna. And I had a friend in Glori. I also think if Glori/Lea didn't quit I wouldn't have had to deal with the rocks at final 6.
I am not taking away her immunity win as a plus to her own game. But for my own game, I want the votes for my social gameplay. I did not need any immunities to make it to the end of this thing. I did the rock draw after 2 people quit the game and my main ally was blindside because of 2 idols being played. I was forced into "luck" to save Rihanna/Myself, but it was the same luck that Anna/you/Jeremy were hoping for. We all needed that. I had the benefit of 1/3 chance versus 2/3.
Nothing personal at all Zac, these were just games! It was hard to trust you in this one following the Island. They were so close that it didn't give time apart to really finish them out!
Best of luck with your decision, and if you have anything further please let me know.
XOXOXOXOXO Nicki Minaj |
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Post by Neil Patrick Harris on Feb 1, 2014 7:04:32 GMT
1. I'm sorry you are right you were not in on the Colin blindside. I got confused because you called me out on not knowing about it, I forgot when exactly you started your blindsiding spree. LOL.
2. Odd. Going back through my tribal thread I have Jeremy, but I may have been late and it went to a boot list that was from the very beginning of the game.
Thanks for the opportunity Zac.
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Post by Colin O'Donoghue on Feb 1, 2014 23:48:37 GMT
Am I the only one who wasn't pissed about mw leaving
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Post by Jeremy Irvine on Feb 2, 2014 5:01:39 GMT
Am I the only one who wasn't pissed about mw leaving I wasn't  |
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Post by Zac Efron on Feb 2, 2014 13:39:28 GMT
Am I the only one who wasn't pissed about mw leaving I think I was more pissed by you leaving than I was by me leaving. By that point I was so over the animosity and hatred towards me it was almost a blessing to have it behind me. >_< I never thought I would say that but I actually didn't care at all when I got the rock lol, not even kidding. |
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You TOTALLY deserve to be there. <3 Nobody gets to Final 3 without deserving it, you beat us all and should be proud of yourself no matter what happens this FTC! 
